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	<title>Comments on: Sutera Sanctuary Lodges &#8211; the biggest rip-off merchants in Asia</title>
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		<title>By: afkus</title>
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		<dc:creator>afkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to climbing mt kinabalu on this october and start to get in touch with SSL as the only one operator for accomodation at laban rata.
they offer me 3d/2n package. and it cost me 1500RM/couple (that means 750 for each) and 988RM for 1 person if you took solo hiking trip. the price exclude round transport fee  KP HQ to mesilau (85RM) or timpohon (16.5RM) , guide fee (95RM), entrance fee (15RM), climbing permit (100RM non Malaysian) it means 318.5RM total.
 
so, total price if I took 3D/2N couple package is 1068.5RM/each person

wow... expensive!

and I don&#039;t think that there is a way to manage our own hiking arrangement without taking SSL package. since they become the one and only operator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to climbing mt kinabalu on this october and start to get in touch with SSL as the only one operator for accomodation at laban rata.<br />
they offer me 3d/2n package. and it cost me 1500RM/couple (that means 750 for each) and 988RM for 1 person if you took solo hiking trip. the price exclude round transport fee  KP HQ to mesilau (85RM) or timpohon (16.5RM) , guide fee (95RM), entrance fee (15RM), climbing permit (100RM non Malaysian) it means 318.5RM total.</p>
<p>so, total price if I took 3D/2N couple package is 1068.5RM/each person</p>
<p>wow&#8230; expensive!</p>
<p>and I don&#8217;t think that there is a way to manage our own hiking arrangement without taking SSL package. since they become the one and only operator.</p>
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		<title>By: MAHA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAHA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my only regret, not finding this side before i started organising a small group to climb the mount...sigh. what a rip-off indeed,it cost me less than 300RM for the trip in 2007. every one should boycot them,now we have very cheap flight tickets to KK but no mountain to climb.hope someone will stop this nonsence.... TO HELL WITH SSL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my only regret, not finding this side before i started organising a small group to climb the mount&#8230;sigh. what a rip-off indeed,it cost me less than 300RM for the trip in 2007. every one should boycot them,now we have very cheap flight tickets to KK but no mountain to climb.hope someone will stop this nonsence&#8230;. TO HELL WITH SSL.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not an isue of how much it costs, but of where that money goes.

how much for track work?
how much for fair and reasonable wages for the local staff?
how much for insurance?

we cant begrudge someone for making a profit.

most of us want to work to earn, save and spend. not just to survive.

i am not saying it is right to exploit something to make money, its not, i agree.

we all need to weigh up whether we think that our hard earned cash spent going to these places is going to be used to ensure that these places will still be around for future generations to go to.

the cost is not the issue.
its a question of whether the curret managers are ensuring responsible usage of the area, leading to preservation of a finite resource.

are they?
you decide.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not an isue of how much it costs, but of where that money goes.</p>
<p>how much for track work?<br />
how much for fair and reasonable wages for the local staff?<br />
how much for insurance?</p>
<p>we cant begrudge someone for making a profit.</p>
<p>most of us want to work to earn, save and spend. not just to survive.</p>
<p>i am not saying it is right to exploit something to make money, its not, i agree.</p>
<p>we all need to weigh up whether we think that our hard earned cash spent going to these places is going to be used to ensure that these places will still be around for future generations to go to.</p>
<p>the cost is not the issue.<br />
its a question of whether the curret managers are ensuring responsible usage of the area, leading to preservation of a finite resource.</p>
<p>are they?<br />
you decide.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Pete K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have climbed this mountain 4 times some years ago and so has my family. The cost was manageable and the experience was unforgettable. It is sad that Malaysian families and other people like me will not be able to experience the beauty of Kinabalu because of the greed of a few people. This saga of greed and deception points to a higher failing at the political and government level. Unless you fix that, there will always be greedy Towkays taking advantage of beautiful Sabah. The same story is repeated again and again where the natural resources of the state are prostituted for money to a few bastards who will never stop until they destroy everything. Change the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have climbed this mountain 4 times some years ago and so has my family. The cost was manageable and the experience was unforgettable. It is sad that Malaysian families and other people like me will not be able to experience the beauty of Kinabalu because of the greed of a few people. This saga of greed and deception points to a higher failing at the political and government level. Unless you fix that, there will always be greedy Towkays taking advantage of beautiful Sabah. The same story is repeated again and again where the natural resources of the state are prostituted for money to a few bastards who will never stop until they destroy everything. Change the government.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>such a shame, i was planning a trip to kinabalu, whilst im sure the mountain is beautifal i refuse to support such ridiculous price increases on principle. I&#039;ll just wait until I get to nepal for a better climb. thanks for making this website though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>such a shame, i was planning a trip to kinabalu, whilst im sure the mountain is beautifal i refuse to support such ridiculous price increases on principle. I&#8217;ll just wait until I get to nepal for a better climb. thanks for making this website though</p>
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